Dependency Is Not a Bad Word: Understanding Adult Attachment

This episode marks the last time you’ll hear my podcast intro as Ill Zebra’s Transformations — and the first step toward a new chapter. My focus is now even clearer: speaking directly to mature women with big dreams, deep trauma in their history, and the partners who want to understand them (and themselves) better.

I open Episode 20 by looking back over the past 10 episodes, which began with a raw conversation about narcissistic abuse and my own journey of recovery. Guided by voices like Coach Claire, I’ve learned to recognize the signs of true healing — from no longer replaying painful stories to letting go of the need for justice.

One of the biggest challenges for survivors of narcissistic abuse is trusting again. Our “narc radar” gets so finely tuned that we can end up misreading good partners as threats. This is where attachment theory becomes a powerful tool.

I walk listeners through the four main attachment styles — secure, anxious, avoidant, and disorganized — and explain why avoidant attachment, while sometimes difficult, is not the same as narcissism. Drawing from experts like Meadow DeVor, I share practical tests to tell the difference:

Is independence being used to protect vulnerability… or to control you?
Is emotional distance a coping mechanism… or a manipulation tactic?
Is conflict avoidance about keeping peace… or keeping power?

Through these distinctions, I invite you to approach relationships with more compassion — for yourself and others — while still maintaining healthy boundaries.

We also hear from a man with avoidant attachment who didn’t recognize his patterns until after a painful breakup. His story shows that change is possible, but only when we’re willing to see our habits clearly.

Finally, I challenge one of the most common myths in modern self-help: that dependency is unhealthy. As the book Attached points out, once we bond with someone, we form one psychological unit. Our partner influences our blood pressure, hormones, and even our emotional regulation. The key isn’t to avoid dependency — it’s to choose the right person to depend on, and to nurture that bond intentionally.

Key Takeaways

Healing from narcissistic abuse often involves letting go of the need for justice or constant retelling of your story.
Attachment theory helps distinguish between avoidant attachment and narcissistic manipulation.
Avoidants seek independence to feel safe; narcissists use “independence” to control and devalue.
Emotional and biological dependency in relationships is natural and healthy with the right partner.
Self-awareness and open communication are key to reshaping insecure attachment patterns.

Listen to the full episode here.

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Ilze Be Berzina CEO
Ilze Be is a multilingual educator, creative entrepreneur, and host of the She Became CEO podcast. With a background in linguistics, teaching, and business administration, Ilze helps women—especially those navigating midlife reinvention—find their voice, clarify their message, and build sustainable online businesses with heart. A lifelong learner and advocate for trauma-aware transformation, she blends storytelling, strategy, and soul in everything she creates.

Ilze Be Berzina
Ilze Be Berzina

Ilze Be is a multilingual educator, creative entrepreneur, and host of the She Became CEO podcast. With a background in linguistics, teaching, and business administration, Ilze helps women—especially those navigating midlife reinvention—find their voice, clarify their message, and build sustainable online businesses with heart. A lifelong learner and advocate for trauma-aware transformation, she blends storytelling, strategy, and soul in everything she creates.

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